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	<title>Comments on: AirPort wireless connection Drops on Leopard 10.5.2</title>
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	<description>Fixes for Apple AirPort, QuickTime AVI, and other Leopard Issues</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jerry Zakariasen</title>
		<link>http://installingcats.com/2008/06/06/airport-wireless-connection-drops-on-leopard-10-5-2/#comment-453</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Zakariasen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren stated that the only time her connection dropped was when her husband was on his Windows laptop. I have found the exact same thing only I have narrowed it down further to Windows VISTA as I have another computer on the wireless network running Windows XP that does not cause conflicts.

Most importantly after trying to tweak the VISTA settings without success I decided to try Steve's advise and took Real Player Downloader off of my MacBook Pro by taking it out of the list of startup programs.  After doing this, and rebooting my MacBook Pro, low and behold my VISTA laptop and my MacBook Pro can now co-exist happily on the same WIFI network.  I now have great speed and no connection drops.  Yipee, Yaahoo!!!!!! Finally something that seems to help.  I too have my fingers crossed!  

For reference, my wireless network was set up using a MAC Time Capsule.

May I express my profound thanks to Lauren, Steve, Ben Lam, and all the others who took the time to make posts and help others to solve this problem!!!  You are all wonderful, giving people who I can't praise enough.

As for Apple, Real Player, and Microsoft I suggest that they get together to resolve this problem as I have found Real Player Downloader to be a useful utility in spite of all the problems it has caused me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauren stated that the only time her connection dropped was when her husband was on his Windows laptop. I have found the exact same thing only I have narrowed it down further to Windows VISTA as I have another computer on the wireless network running Windows XP that does not cause conflicts.</p>
<p>Most importantly after trying to tweak the VISTA settings without success I decided to try Steve&#8217;s advise and took Real Player Downloader off of my MacBook Pro by taking it out of the list of startup programs.  After doing this, and rebooting my MacBook Pro, low and behold my VISTA laptop and my MacBook Pro can now co-exist happily on the same WIFI network.  I now have great speed and no connection drops.  Yipee, Yaahoo!!!!!! Finally something that seems to help.  I too have my fingers crossed!  </p>
<p>For reference, my wireless network was set up using a MAC Time Capsule.</p>
<p>May I express my profound thanks to Lauren, Steve, Ben Lam, and all the others who took the time to make posts and help others to solve this problem!!!  You are all wonderful, giving people who I can&#8217;t praise enough.</p>
<p>As for Apple, Real Player, and Microsoft I suggest that they get together to resolve this problem as I have found Real Player Downloader to be a useful utility in spite of all the problems it has caused me.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex SF</title>
		<link>http://installingcats.com/2008/06/06/airport-wireless-connection-drops-on-leopard-10-5-2/#comment-452</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 01:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disabling Real Player Downloader per Steve's suggest works for me so far (three days).  Fingers crossed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disabling Real Player Downloader per Steve&#8217;s suggest works for me so far (three days).  Fingers crossed.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyber Buddhah</title>
		<link>http://installingcats.com/2008/06/06/airport-wireless-connection-drops-on-leopard-10-5-2/#comment-450</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyber Buddhah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing,

That explains why, when you bring your MBP to the Genius Bar, the connection works because you connect to Apple's Router while at home this Airport Utility things keep looking for Apple's Airport station and demend that you spend soe more chaching to buy Apple's hardware (router). Doh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing,</p>
<p>That explains why, when you bring your MBP to the Genius Bar, the connection works because you connect to Apple&#8217;s Router while at home this Airport Utility things keep looking for Apple&#8217;s Airport station and demend that you spend soe more chaching to buy Apple&#8217;s hardware (router). Doh.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyber Buddhah</title>
		<link>http://installingcats.com/2008/06/06/airport-wireless-connection-drops-on-leopard-10-5-2/#comment-449</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyber Buddhah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avoid Airport Utility 5.3.2 like "Leper" (nothing personal here)! I think this update is only for those with Time Capsule or Airport Express Router. If you use mainstream Router, this update probably is the culprit to all headache.

Somewhere along, I have updated this package b mistake.

What I did today is re-install Leopard from the DVD install disk then updated straight to Combo 10.5.6 update package. Babing! My connection is rock solid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avoid Airport Utility 5.3.2 like &#8220;Leper&#8221; (nothing personal here)! I think this update is only for those with Time Capsule or Airport Express Router. If you use mainstream Router, this update probably is the culprit to all headache.</p>
<p>Somewhere along, I have updated this package b mistake.</p>
<p>What I did today is re-install Leopard from the DVD install disk then updated straight to Combo 10.5.6 update package. Babing! My connection is rock solid!</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://installingcats.com/2008/06/06/airport-wireless-connection-drops-on-leopard-10-5-2/#comment-445</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some interesting reads on this forum. I too have this problem with my wife's MacBook purchased only a few months ago. Running 10.5.6 and yes, the wireless drops out plenty.

Having had at least 3 routers (D-Link, Netgear, Belkin) all with different capabilities (currently using a Pre-N Belkin) the Mac seems to like a router for a while and then develop an allergy to it. Things I find in regards to the solutions I have seen here:

1. Preferences file deletion. Does work, but will quickly stop working.
2. PRAM Reset. Again, does work but quickly stopped working.
3. Change channel on router. Does help, and if anything, using APGrapher to find out what channel your neighbour is on is good simply so you can get the best connection possible.

I am about to try little Snitch, but I have one question for everyone. Where is your router &#38; modem? Mine sits very close to my TV and I wandered about where other people kept their? I have heard of interference from wireless phones etc, but just be interesting to see if there is a common link...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some interesting reads on this forum. I too have this problem with my wife&#8217;s MacBook purchased only a few months ago. Running 10.5.6 and yes, the wireless drops out plenty.</p>
<p>Having had at least 3 routers (D-Link, Netgear, Belkin) all with different capabilities (currently using a Pre-N Belkin) the Mac seems to like a router for a while and then develop an allergy to it. Things I find in regards to the solutions I have seen here:</p>
<p>1. Preferences file deletion. Does work, but will quickly stop working.<br />
2. PRAM Reset. Again, does work but quickly stopped working.<br />
3. Change channel on router. Does help, and if anything, using APGrapher to find out what channel your neighbour is on is good simply so you can get the best connection possible.</p>
<p>I am about to try little Snitch, but I have one question for everyone. Where is your router &amp; modem? Mine sits very close to my TV and I wandered about where other people kept their? I have heard of interference from wireless phones etc, but just be interesting to see if there is a common link&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://installingcats.com/2008/06/06/airport-wireless-connection-drops-on-leopard-10-5-2/#comment-442</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Ben, for hosting this discussion, and thanks, Steve, for solving our issue (so far). I have a MacBook Pro running 10.4.11—never had a problem connecting to our Time Capsule. But whenever I connected, I'd kick my wife off—she has a six-month-old MacBook running the latest version of Leopard (now 10.5.6). I would kick her off even with the iPod touch. She had installed Real Player for a project; it never worked, but she never gave it a second thought. Now, after trashing everything with Real Player in the name and rebooting, we've both been surfing the Web in harmony. Going on five days now.

It seems silly that the problem could have been that simple, and maybe it wasn't. But I'm not going to argue with success at fixing a long, irritating problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ben, for hosting this discussion, and thanks, Steve, for solving our issue (so far). I have a MacBook Pro running 10.4.11—never had a problem connecting to our Time Capsule. But whenever I connected, I&#8217;d kick my wife off—she has a six-month-old MacBook running the latest version of Leopard (now 10.5.6). I would kick her off even with the iPod touch. She had installed Real Player for a project; it never worked, but she never gave it a second thought. Now, after trashing everything with Real Player in the name and rebooting, we&#8217;ve both been surfing the Web in harmony. Going on five days now.</p>
<p>It seems silly that the problem could have been that simple, and maybe it wasn&#8217;t. But I&#8217;m not going to argue with success at fixing a long, irritating problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Lam</title>
		<link>http://installingcats.com/2008/06/06/airport-wireless-connection-drops-on-leopard-10-5-2/#comment-441</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Lam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug,

I know this problem is frustrating beyond most can comprehend.  The worst part of this issue is how unclear the cause of the problem is and the lack of a surefire solution.

From my experience, removal of unused or unnecessary Keychains from Keychain Access plus removal of all unused favorite networks &lt;b&gt;solved my Airport wireless network connection drops in Leopard 10.5.2&lt;/b&gt;.

I have heard from many that this solution &lt;i&gt;does not solve their disconnection issues&lt;/i&gt;.  Why this works for some and not others, I cannot explain.  There are often too many different variables to definitively point to a cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug,</p>
<p>I know this problem is frustrating beyond most can comprehend.  The worst part of this issue is how unclear the cause of the problem is and the lack of a surefire solution.</p>
<p>From my experience, removal of unused or unnecessary Keychains from Keychain Access plus removal of all unused favorite networks <b>solved my Airport wireless network connection drops in Leopard 10.5.2</b>.</p>
<p>I have heard from many that this solution <i>does not solve their disconnection issues</i>.  Why this works for some and not others, I cannot explain.  There are often too many different variables to definitively point to a cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://installingcats.com/2008/06/06/airport-wireless-connection-drops-on-leopard-10-5-2/#comment-440</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This happens continuously with my Mac Book Pro.  However, I have an iMac and two Mac Minis as well as several PC's.  It did happen for several weeks with my iMac but that has now seemed to stop on the iMac.  Why?  I'm not sure.  My Mac Book Pro continues to have the problem.  First observations is that it seems to affect the mac that is used most in the building.

I originally had a DLink router and thought it was the culprit. I bought a Linksys router, to replace it with, thinking this would help. The same problem persisted.  I was on the phone with Apple for over 4 hours, being handed from low level to higher level reps and they all said that they have never heard of such a problem before. However one of the reps insisted that if I bought an AirPort Express or Time Capsule with wifi that all my problems should go away.  I did buy a 1 terabyte Time Capsule. Well, my problems didn't go away.

One thing I found is that it is worse in different locations of my house.

If I leave and go to may fathers place, I have no problems with running my MacBook Pro their.  If I go to my sisters, I have no problems their either.

I've tried turning off all other electronics in the home, have rebooted my router many times and still no success.

I've tried all of the suggestions from this very informative forum but nothing seems to work.

One thing is for certain.  It now only happens on my MacBook Pro, even with OSX 10.5.6.

I'm starting to think that it may be that someone has hacked/infected my neighbors router and is attempting to use it to collect wifi packets.  Is that possible? Do some wifi experts out their know how to steal data via a hacked neighboring wifi?

Who knows, maybe it could be someone playing games with a radio frequency scanner or scrambler.  I'm running out of idea's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This happens continuously with my Mac Book Pro.  However, I have an iMac and two Mac Minis as well as several PC&#8217;s.  It did happen for several weeks with my iMac but that has now seemed to stop on the iMac.  Why?  I&#8217;m not sure.  My Mac Book Pro continues to have the problem.  First observations is that it seems to affect the mac that is used most in the building.</p>
<p>I originally had a DLink router and thought it was the culprit. I bought a Linksys router, to replace it with, thinking this would help. The same problem persisted.  I was on the phone with Apple for over 4 hours, being handed from low level to higher level reps and they all said that they have never heard of such a problem before. However one of the reps insisted that if I bought an AirPort Express or Time Capsule with wifi that all my problems should go away.  I did buy a 1 terabyte Time Capsule. Well, my problems didn&#8217;t go away.</p>
<p>One thing I found is that it is worse in different locations of my house.</p>
<p>If I leave and go to may fathers place, I have no problems with running my MacBook Pro their.  If I go to my sisters, I have no problems their either.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried turning off all other electronics in the home, have rebooted my router many times and still no success.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried all of the suggestions from this very informative forum but nothing seems to work.</p>
<p>One thing is for certain.  It now only happens on my MacBook Pro, even with OSX 10.5.6.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m starting to think that it may be that someone has hacked/infected my neighbors router and is attempting to use it to collect wifi packets.  Is that possible? Do some wifi experts out their know how to steal data via a hacked neighboring wifi?</p>
<p>Who knows, maybe it could be someone playing games with a radio frequency scanner or scrambler.  I&#8217;m running out of idea&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Christos</title>
		<link>http://installingcats.com/2008/06/06/airport-wireless-connection-drops-on-leopard-10-5-2/#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator>Christos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey all,

i've been having this problem for a while now. I've tried most of the suggested fixes but nothing really seems to work. Just to give you my two cents:

it seems that it is a OSX environment thing. I have a macbook pro 10.5.6 and a macbook 10.4.11 and regardless of the system, the internet drops out while the wifi for all intents and purposes is still working. I've got an airport express and the green light happily drums along through all of this. was about to send my router back but it seems that i'm not alone! The only thing that fixes it for me is a power cycle on router computers....

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey all,</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve been having this problem for a while now. I&#8217;ve tried most of the suggested fixes but nothing really seems to work. Just to give you my two cents:</p>
<p>it seems that it is a OSX environment thing. I have a macbook pro 10.5.6 and a macbook 10.4.11 and regardless of the system, the internet drops out while the wifi for all intents and purposes is still working. I&#8217;ve got an airport express and the green light happily drums along through all of this. was about to send my router back but it seems that i&#8217;m not alone! The only thing that fixes it for me is a power cycle on router computers&#8230;.</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Buren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Buren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everyone.  I've been having problems with my wireless connection for about a week or two now.  However, my problem seems a bit different from everyone else's.  I live in an apartment building right next to a big biomedical research building at a major university.  I'm so close to the research building that I can see the schools network and for YEARS I've been using the schools public network.  However, lately I've run into trouble.  When I first open up my computer I can see about a dozen networks, those of people living in my building and the schools public network.  I can even connect to the public network and get online, everything works fine for about 2 minutes.  Then I get disconnected and when I go to the airport menu bar it scans, but doesn't find any networks, which is really weird since it obviously was able to detect about a dozen of them 2 minutes before.  I'm on a macbook pro running 10.5.6, although I also had the problem while running 10.5.5.  I'm going crazy not having internet.  I've tried running hardware diagnostics, but it didn't find any problems, I've tried resetting my PRAM with no effect.  Any suggestions would be GREATLY APPRECIATED.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone.  I&#8217;ve been having problems with my wireless connection for about a week or two now.  However, my problem seems a bit different from everyone else&#8217;s.  I live in an apartment building right next to a big biomedical research building at a major university.  I&#8217;m so close to the research building that I can see the schools network and for YEARS I&#8217;ve been using the schools public network.  However, lately I&#8217;ve run into trouble.  When I first open up my computer I can see about a dozen networks, those of people living in my building and the schools public network.  I can even connect to the public network and get online, everything works fine for about 2 minutes.  Then I get disconnected and when I go to the airport menu bar it scans, but doesn&#8217;t find any networks, which is really weird since it obviously was able to detect about a dozen of them 2 minutes before.  I&#8217;m on a macbook pro running 10.5.6, although I also had the problem while running 10.5.5.  I&#8217;m going crazy not having internet.  I&#8217;ve tried running hardware diagnostics, but it didn&#8217;t find any problems, I&#8217;ve tried resetting my PRAM with no effect.  Any suggestions would be GREATLY APPRECIATED.  Thanks.</p>
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